The Grunt Fund Calculator

Check Out the Pie Slicer!

Manage the contributions of  your whole team using the online Pie Slicer software. The Pie Slicer tracks inputs from team members and applies the Slicing Pie formula.



To help you form your very own Grunt Fund, I have created an Excel spreadsheet that calculates slices of pie based on the model in the book.

Download the Grunt Fund Calculator

 Download the Grunt Fund Calculator – Expanded to accommodate up to 20 Grunts!

The video below provide a quick explanation on using the calculator.


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  • ‘Slicing Pie’ is fantastic because it is fair and makes sense and avoids the mistakes of splitting too early. I read the book last week and our team is now slicing pie using this model. Thanks a lot. Troy Westley, CEO CareMonkey.

  • John Warren

    Saw the video having run into (showstopper) issues with division of value in the past. This model is respectably comprehensive without being burdensome. I have bought the book and look forward to more insights through it.

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  • I really like the slicingpie approach as an angel investor I have just helped an early stage investor unwind their shareholding in an approach similar (less well developed) as slicingpie. Thanks for sharing your insights and methods it will save SO many early ventures. I will share the magic with my networks. Scott

    • Mike Moyer

      Thanks for your comment, Scott!

  • Thanks Mike, this is really useful. A friend in SF got us onto your book and it makes a lot of sense. Having this calculator helps bring the concept into reality really nicely. Thank you.

    • Thanks Will! I’m glad you liked it. Be sure to thank your friend for me!

  • Corey Hubbard

    Great read!

  • David Worrell

    Great book… and a cool calculator too. You should be charging $500 bucks for this! The insight alone is worth ten times that.

    • Hi David, I’m sure we can work something out….!

  • Carl Lewis

    Halfway done

  • great tool, saved me 90 minutes, thanks Mike!

  • Sonya Davis

    This is super helpful! Saves us a ton of time!

  • Nana

    Great book Mike, lifesaver!

  • Leigh Pember

    Hey Mike, this is a nice idea. But why is the WE day a Wednesday?

    • Leigh Pember

      Oh wait, I see the formula is taking the start date from C3…but I thought you explained that as the start date of the Grunt, not the company. With this method each employee would have a different WE making it hard to tally weekly hours put into the project. I am sure you have a reason

  • Siam Mosharraf Hossain

    Just loved it Mike. You are a visionary.

  • Septi Utami

    Dear Mr. Moyer i’ve read you’re free sample book but at some point i feel confused. because actually i found your theory when our business has started and the agreement has been made. but still thanks for your sharing Mr. Moyer

  • My co-founder has suggested I make a loan to get our new company started, that will start to be returned once the company is trading profitably in 6-12 months. I’m unsure how to plug this into the calculator (versus a simple cash-for-equity deal). Any suggestions?

    • Kristopher Dick

      Loans are covered in the book. Ver 2.3 of the Paperback edition: page 75 (Chapter 3: Creating a Grunt Fund, Section Heading: Loans and Credit). You may expect your principle + agreed upon interest, but no pie unless something goes awry.

  • Patricia O’Sullivan

    I have mentored many tens of entrepreneurs where this spreadsheet might have saved their company when the inevitable fall-out over something unforeseen happened. I will be encouraging every entrepreneur I know to read the Slicing Pie book and at the very least use this spreadsheet. As for myself, I will be signing up for the new Slicing Pie app 🙂

  • reastes

    I saw Mike present this in Brisbane last week. This is one of the most exciting entrepreneur tools I’ve seen in the last 10 years. Careful thought has gone into executing this. I won’t start another business without it.

  • Kent Harrington

    Just listened to the book on a drive from Houston to Baton Rogue and back, life saver!!

    • Great! Say “hi,” to Houston for me!

      • Kent Harrington

        Will do, though the heat and humidity are brutal these days. I just finished briefing my starting team on the Pie Slicing and showed the chart. All have completely bought into, thanks Mike!!

  • Gruntmaster,

    I have been contemplating similar ideas and really look forward to combining with this concept and calculator. I have a couple questions,

    1) my company is 4.5 years old and I am considering creating phantom stock in order to attract and retain key team members and possibly real equity for a possible investor to help take the company to a better place. We are no longer a start up toddler but I would say a tween as far as maturity. I can’t think of any reason Slicing Pie wouldn’t work, can you?

    2) I would take the value it currently is (with the council of a few wise people) and move forward at that point. I think I would reduce the risk some due to the fact we are no longer a start up. I am purchasing the book but curious on your take if that’s not in there (value is profit x 5, contract street value of accounts under agreements – monitored alarm accounts accounts, and street wholesale value of inventory and other assets – any debt). Does that sound reasonable? Any suggestions for a smaller but stable company like mine?

    3) I was thinking about offering phantom stock small percentage to a Board and business advisers in lieu of fees (acct, lawyer, bus coach, etc), allow employees to convert performance bonus or deferred salary into the Pie as you mention, and investor. I really like the concepts outlined. Any issues between phantom and real stock? I am 100% owner and not wanting to mess with real stock shares quite yet but sometime? How does that affect the Pie?

    Thanks in advance

    • Hi Kirk,

      Thanks for the note. Slicing Pie is mostly for bootstrapped startups. It’s based on individual risk. In more established companies individual risk isn’t taken because people are usually getting paid their fair market rates. In these cases equity is more about bonus and retention programs. A more traditional stock option or phantom stock program might work better. I’m working on a book about bonus programs, but it’s still rough!

  • Desirae Aguirre

    Hi Mike – Loved your book! Very new to the start-up business and I need some clarification.

    I am the founder of a start-up. Prior to reading your book I hired two developers. The arrangement we made was that I would pay them their fair value wage of $200 an hour however, half would be paid in cash the other would be in units of shares. How would this be inputted using your pie slicer techniques? I would hate to go back and renegotiate our terms as we all have a trusting and great relationship but I also don’t want this agreement to haunt me, so if I am wayyyyy off the mark, can you suggest an alternative solution?

    • Hi Desirae,

      To use the Pie Slicer, you would simply input the unpaid portion of their rate. In your case, you would enter $100 which would convert to 200 slices per hour.

      You may be overpaying them unless they are some amazing developers. You’re paying them a $400,000 annual salary. Seems high. This is strictly a contractor rate so you should negotiate a buyout with them instead of equity. An outline for doing this is in the book.

  • Kathy K

    Hello from Sydney. Your book is amazing and helped me so much. Ive been wracking my brain trying to work out where to even start with this! I cant thank you enough.

    • Thanks for the comment! I’m glad you liked it! I was in Sydney over the summer. Great city, lots of Grunts!

  • Susan Boen

    What does it mean when you divide by 2000? Where does the 2000 come from?

    • Hours in a year!

      • Susan Boen

        Hi Mike,

        I started my business 3 years ago and now I have a friend who’s interested in becoming an investor/business partner. Let’s say he put $20,000 as minor working capital today. How come under the grunt fund excel tab, his money is shown as $80,000 (after multiplied by 4)? He is investing in the present time, not years ago.

  • David Reardon

    I want to use Slicing Pie for a restart. We have strong intellectual property and are putting together a new team and new financing. But we want to allocate a slice of the pie to the original investors and original team who had grunt equity. At $1 per unit, there was $2,000,000 in original cash investment and 1,200,000 in units allocated for grunt equity, $3.2 million total. Since all those units are in a separate LLC, call it Old LLC. I want to assign an appropriate Slice of the Pie to Old LLC as a single entity in the Slice Pie spreadsheet. Currently, I just lumped the whole $3.2 million into “legal fees” under “intellectual property” as Old LLC’s share. Actually, most of that went to equipment leases and salaries. Would you recommend a different approach??

    • Hi David,

      You could allow Old LLC to license the IP to the New LLC and provide a royalty. Lumping the whole enchilada in the Pie could demotivate future employees. Set up some time with me at clarity.fm/mikemoyer if you want to talk in person!


  • Emily Montgomery

    How do the Calculator and the App interact? If I buy the App, is there still a use for the Calculator? Thanks!

    • The calculator is an Excel spreadsheet, the Pie Slicer is online software. They are separate tools for the same thing. I think the software is easier to use for teams. All the calculations are built in.

  • C Brennan

    Just bought the audio version of your Slicing pie. Digging in shortly!

    Thank you for making your spreadsheet available free. Question on the rubric please:

    The rubric allows for a 4x multiplier for cash contributions– yet unpaid commissions operate on only a 2x multiplier in the model. Can you please explain the difference (in TV) between the treatment of hard-cash and unpaid commissions in the model? Thanks.

    • Cash contributions refer to out of pocket expenses or cash consumed. Commission is a form of compensation, unpaid salary, commission, royalties, etc. are non cash contributions.

  • Roy Petter Torgersen

    I stumbled over you book on Quora or Medium, and was immediately attracted to the title and the cover design. I’ve just finished it, mostly read on my iphone during short breaks, and done in a couple of days, so it’s super easy to read.

    And now I’m a bit upset!

    Basically because I hadn’t stumbled over it before. We are bootstrapping our underwater robots business, nidorobotics.com (shameless self promotion) and the equity question has been a personal headache, coupled with how to evaluate the startup Pre-money.

    Anyway, I’m SO implementing this over the next few weeks in our company. I’ll translate the important parts to my Spanish team and I would like to publish our findings on our website (I’m also a fan of Buffer’s transparency policies), if that’s ok with you.

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